Nvidia stops promotional game resales by tying codes to hardware

I am lucky I managed to sell my Watch Dogs 2 key in time before this bulls**t.

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Aaaaaaand it begins. I’m just waiting for the day when the new games can’t be run by either AMD or Nvidia because the games are tied to either one of the cards. Luckily it’s only for promotional games now.

Year 2020: Mass Effect: Andromeda 2 can only be run on nvidia GPUs.
Year 2021: Battlefield 5 can only be run on AMD GPUs.

Yes! Future! xD

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I just feel they are a very underhanded company. I have never run an Nvida GPU but am looking to get a 1080ti or a Titan later in the year but this really makes me ponder that decision.

Katsuo said in Nvidia stops promotional game resales by tying codes to hardware:

Aaaaaaand it begins. I’m just waiting for the day when the new games can’t be run by either AMD or Nvidia because the games are tied to either one of the cards. Luckily it’s only for promotional games now.

Year 2020: Mass Effect: Andromeda 2 can only be run on nvidia GPUs.
Year 2021: Battlefield 5 can only be run on AMD GPUs.

Yes! Future! xD

I believe that Nvida has tried this before, remember the problems with the original Watch Dogs only working right with Nvidia cars when it was first released.

Sir_diealot You are right but that did not only happen with Watch Dogs. There were a lot more games that were performing horribly on AMD GPUs and CPUs.

The biggest reason why I dislike nvidia is exactly that. They know that they are controlling most of the market and they are pretty much doing whatever they want. It wouldn’t be a surprise if the new Mass Effect works like a donkey’s butthole on AMD rigs. Nvidia already crawled their hands onto the game with their stupid Gameworks “technology”.

AMD or anyone else just needs to slap nvidia on the market and let them know that they can’t do whatever they want. I hope AMD will succeed with the new Vega and Navi cards.

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I personally don’t care either way.

A company does what it can to enhance it’s product and it’s abilities (if said product has any) to outsell the competition… period.

Nvidia does this and gameworks and whatever else and AMD raves about being able to utilize DX12 now as well as TressFX Hair and Freesync. Heck BF1, Ashes of the SIngularity, Dues Ex, Mankind Divided and Hitman all have this in them… why have you not complained about that exclusiveness? Is it because you just like to complain about Nvidia, or maybe because it really does not matter when it comes down to it. Think about it… how are you affected? You buy a GPU from said company and it comes with software optimized or designed to work on that piece of hardware… you can’t sell it. Boo hoo.

Microsoft (Xbox) and Sony (Playstation) have been doing this for years, including the aforementioned exclusive games, nothing new there so why would it be a surprise if the big boys went that way?

So in a nut shell… different companies, different products, different ideas and core beliefs (other than how can we get more money than the other guy). Sound about right?

I’m Craig and that’s the way I understand it, feel free to feel different, it is what makes this post even more relevant. :stuck_out_tongue: Diversity drives… well, everything in one way or another.

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Katsuo said in Nvidia stops promotional game resales by tying codes to hardware:

Sir_diealot You are right but that did not only happen with Watch Dogs. There were a lot more games that were performing horribly on AMD GPUs and CPUs.

The biggest reason why I dislike nvidia is exactly that. They know that they are controlling most of the market and they are pretty much doing whatever they want. It wouldn’t be a surprise if the new Mass Effect works like a donkey’s butthole on AMD rigs. Nvidia already crawled their hands onto the game with their stupid Gameworks “technology”.

AMD or anyone else just needs to slap nvidia on the market and let them know that they can’t do whatever they want. I hope AMD will succeed with the new Vega and Navi cards.

Oh I know it was with more than just Watch Dogs, but that was the only one that came to mind at the time.

Ub6 said in Nvidia stops promotional game resales by tying codes to hardware:

I personally don’t care either way.

A company does what it can to enhance it’s product and it’s abilities (if said product has any) to outsell the competition… period.

Nvidia does this and gameworks and whatever else and AMD raves about being able to utilize DX12 now as well as TressFX Hair and Freesync. Heck BF1, Ashes of the SIngularity, Dues Ex, Mankind Divided and Hitman all have this in them… why have you not complained about that exclusiveness? Is it because you just like to complain about Nvidia, or maybe because it really does not matter when it comes down to it. Think about it… how are you affected? You buy a GPU from said company and it comes with software optimized or designed to work on that piece of hardware… you can’t sell it. Boo hoo.

Microsoft (Xbox) and Sony (Playstation) have been doing this for years, including the aforementioned exclusive games, nothing new there so why would it be a surprise if the big boys went that way?

So in a nut shell… different companies, different products, different ideas and core beliefs (other than how can we get more money than the other guy). Sound about right?

I’m Craig and that’s the way I understand it, feel free to feel different, it is what makes this post even more relevant. :stuck_out_tongue: Diversity drives… well, everything in one way or another.

I think when you directly sabotage a game so a certain group can’t use it it is wrong no matter who it is that does it. I don’t feel that anybody has the right to say you can’t sell what you paid for, you own it it is yours to do with as you please. As I said I don’t like that you can’t sell your Steam game but you can bring in console games and sell them all day long with no problem. (second hand sales) To be it is like buying a car then the manufacturer telling you you can’t sell it when you get to the point that you want something new. I think it is the one major downfall of the so called PC Master Race that we allow so many of these companies to walk all over us.

Ub6 Couldn’t agree more xD It seems that hating Nvidia these days is “in” because AMD supposedly is fighting for the 99%. In reality, there’s no difference between AMD and Nvidia.

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I am pretty sure AMD has been doing this for a while. I don’t see what the big deal is? It probably murders those sketchy key sites.

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Sir_diealot the fact is we don’t own thew game, when you purchase any game … you only purchased license (which grants you the right) to install the game on PC (one at the time) and play game, under EULA rules … So i don’t see the problem. This is same situation like with Windows OEM licences. For example you buy new PC or mobile phone, and OEM Windows OS is preinstalled and licences is bound to that specific hardware. If you change hardware like MBO or Hard drive (on which your OS is installed) you lose the right to use that license (Because regulations say you can upgrade hardware but you can’t change base hardware, except in exceptional situations such as hardware failures) Changing MBO is replacement not upgrade … So this is same type of licensing model … game is bound to hardware and can’t be be sold separately from the linked hardware, which is logical because you receive an exclusive game with it.

The only thing that could be a problem with this type of licensing model is:

  • what happens when your hardware experiences a failure … Will nVidia allow you to transfer the license on new GPU?
  • what happens when you buy new PC with new GPU? Or in a few years when GPU becomes obsolete? … Will nVidia allow you to transfer the license on new PC …

everything else with this licensing model is OK …

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Sir_diealot wait to see what Vega brings. Depending on what resolution your plan on running a 1080ti may not be necessary or even practical. It’s awesome to say hey i have this monster but quite often people never actually take advantage of the power they provide.

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Witcher 3 did just perform awesome on my Nvidia GPU and AMD CPU :wink:

Mark2K77 said in Nvidia stops promotional game resales by tying codes to hardware:

The only thing that could be a problem with this type of licensing model is:

  • what happens when your hardware experiences a failure … Will nVidia allow you to transfer the license on new GPU?
  • what happens when you buy new PC with new GPU? Or in a few years when GPU becomes obsolete? … Will nVidia allow you to transfer the license on new PC …

everything else with this licensing model is OK …

What I envision might happen is that a system similar to what Windows uses when one upgrades their motherboard or storage drive containing the OS… a phone call and some questions later it works again.

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EVGA guys explained it for everyone watching last night. You only need GeForce experience installed so you can activate the code through it. Once activated you can change GPU, mobo, everything. It won’t affect the game. This is only to prevent people to sell their promotional codes on black market (kinguin, g2a, etc).

Ub6 usually it will work first time :slight_smile: … but after that, there is no luck xD …

Mark2K77 said in Nvidia stops promotional game resales by tying codes to hardware:

Sir_diealot the fact is we don’t own thew game, when you purchase any game … you only purchased license (which grants you the right) to install the game on PC (one at the time) and play game, under EULA rules … So i don’t see the problem. This is same situation like with Windows OEM licences. For example you buy new PC or mobile phone, and OEM Windows OS is preinstalled and licences is bound to that specific hardware. If you change hardware like MBO or Hard drive (on which your OS is installed) you lose the right to use that license (Because regulations say you can upgrade hardware but you can’t change base hardware, except in exceptional situations such as hardware failures) Changing MBO is replacement not upgrade … So this is same type of licensing model … game is bound to hardware and can’t be be sold separately from the linked hardware, which is logical because you receive an exclusive game with it.

The only thing that could be a problem with this type of licensing model is:

  • what happens when your hardware experiences a failure … Will nVidia allow you to transfer the license on new GPU?
  • what happens when you buy new PC with new GPU? Or in a few years when GPU becomes obsolete? … Will nVidia allow you to transfer the license on new PC …

everything else with this licensing model is OK …

I do not agree with that though, it did not used to be that way, it was you bought it you own it and it is a pity many have accepted it, it should not be that way.

I did post this elsewhere and wound up talking with somebody in the industry and he told me what I believe is the real reason for this, he said that when they get all these codes they figure that most people are not going to use them and that they do not have to pay for the codes that are not used, so once again it does come down to greed.

Spinalfailed said in Nvidia stops promotional game resales by tying codes to hardware:

Sir_diealot wait to see what Vega brings. Depending on what resolution your plan on running a 1080ti may not be necessary or even practical. It’s awesome to say hey i have this monster but quite often people never actually take advantage of the power they provide.

Thank you for the advise.